Onan's game! (04a2043f)

Yep, do you?

The window is now down to 70 minutes. :scream:

Thank you to the Mighty Cree for the trade! @Yeti_la_Pesadilla

Jadwiga should perhaps not try to extract so much from their friends in their time of need!

What now Harald / @francisco.santanna ? Do you seek other lands, and peace? Or continued competition, which WILL lead to war?

If @francisco.santanna is quick, I could maybe get one more in! :exploding_head:

Actually, it’s a good turn for Harald to consider his options carefully and consult his advisors. There is a lot at stake!!!

See you on the other side guys!

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I hope your surgery went well. Take your time to recover.

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It has gone fine. Still a bit sleepless but really really good.

So curious about my turn, it is the most interesting part of the game so far for America, and maybe Vikings, too!!

In other news, I have been awarded

New User of the Month award for September 2021 . :trophy:

@J_Dennis, are you the other?

:rofl::face_with_monocle::partying_face:

Congrats! On a successful operation and on the user of the month. :rofl:

The other? Other user of the month? Naw, I registered for this site a couple of years ago. I only tested one game for 4-5 turns back then. Then I took it up again a month or so ago when my group were too fed up with error screens in the play by cloud lobby.

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The die is cast. Did you make a decision?

Bing says Ravens.

Drugs are everything, and drugs are nothing, at once.

Glad to see you’re back so fast, @Onanista!
You call that a break? :smile:

Wait, what!? War!? You sure you can keep the berserkers at bay?

I am off work for two weeks.

Harald sealed our fates.

I fear that in a war between America and Norway, the only real winner will be Poland.

Seriously, have you guys noticed how big Poland is getting? And you’re all just fine with it?!?

Maybe I misunderstood the rules, but I thought you had to denounce me before going into war:

Denouncement
Casus belli is required to declare war.
Unless it is the ancient era or your civilization benefits from surprise wars.
Denounced players can use their Casus belli without waiting.

You may disagree with my norwegian character, but he was doing exactly what I said he would do. He was even escorting my settler.

Hmn, did you mean the “friendly” game rules?

To be honest, I wasnt even thinking about those, so I’ll take a look to see if I’ve breached them. I was a bit high on meds and knew America does not want this Viking city on the lands between us but much CLOSER to my capital. So when the game allowed me to attack, I seized the moment!

We can discuss and revert if I have breached the non-game rules we agreed to at the start. Will check back. Don’t even know whose turn it is. Remember, also, this is my first real civ6 MP game!

That is quoted from the more formal Club Rules. But we decided to use the friendly rules (which basically boil down to don’t cheat by reloading the game multiple times, and don’t use great people to scout). Messages 17-22 or so of this chat.

I feel like the confusion is my fault, since at first I didn’t understand the difference between friendly and club rules. If that’s the source of the confusion, then my apologies!

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There’s a difference between being fine with it and being unable and unwilling to do anything about it. They are friends to America and our largest trading partner. Who knows if they will watch the war from the sidelines, or choose a different path?

I have raised it before, remember? But to America, the aggressive expansion on our borders is a far more pressing matter, which we can turn our practical attention to.

Indeed, the world, in this Era at least, seems to be a plaything for Poland!

I have no problem with your Viking spirit and embrace a fellow warrior!

I also made my expectations very clear, I thought, and Harald disregarded these. So we have a clash.

I think the war as declared is perfectly legitimate, as this was the conclusion of our rules discussion, the ones we are playing under. I hope youbwerent confused and thinking it was the club rules, because we definitely chose the simpler “friendly” rules.

Here’s a paste from above…next post, wasn’t on clipboard…

Here’s the section where we agreed to Friendly rules:

Valamas

Sep 18

I recommend the friendly rules for this game if you are considering having rules.

Onanista

Sep 18

The friendly rules do look a lot simpler!

This may clear some things up: there are no city states and no AI.

Old habits from civ3 MP die hard.

The club rules seems okay, as well. Just there’s a bunch of options and I’m not sure I can be bothered, at least not right now, specifying which we’ll follow.

Friendly rules okay? Seems minimal but banning a couple obvious exploits.

Yeti_la_Pesadilla

Sep 18

Can you clarify what the difference is? I read through that page a couple times and couldn’t find a clear delineation between friendly vs club rules. I thought it was all one ruleset.

Onanista

Sep 18

From what I can see, these are the only rules under Friendly (while Club has many more possibilities):

  • Not reloading for the purpose of tile or battle scouting.
  • Great people outside of your territory must be escorted by, at least a scout.
  • Once an AI is in the game; players consider adding AI rules from the club rules.

Valamas

Sep 18

Correct. I’ll leave it with you guys.

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Yeti_la_Pesadilla

Sep 19

OK, sounds good. Are we all on board with the friendly rules? And then if somebody bails we can discuss adopting the AI rules at that point. Like @J_Dennis said, you shouldn’t be prevented from finishing a conquest just because the other player rage-quit.

J_Dennis

Sep 19

Yeah, it sounds good.

We should use our common sense and also not use exploits.