New Leaders' Pack Game (09eaeb72)

Smack talk goes here for New Leaders’ Pack Game! Game URL: https://playyourdamnturn.com/game/09eaeb72-d284-42df-b499-7cd4760e3dbd

Hey guys! I joined in, but please let me know if we are using BBG and BBS. I will leave if we’re not using these mods, ok?
Also, I would suggest having a 48hrs timer, so that the game doesn’t hold up too long!

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I’m happy to do that @danlmartins, but I should mention that the latest BBG changelog doesn’t show any updates for many of the new leaders we’re playing in this game.

For example, Wu Zeitan and Yongle’s abilities are not updated in the latest BBG changelog on the Steam workshop. That means one of two scenarios:

  1. Those leaders’ base abilities remain unchanged throughout the course of the game, potentially lending unfair advantages or drawbacks.
  2. Those leaders’ abilities get updated at some point in the middle of the game, but we have no foreknowledge about what those changes may be.

I’m pretty sure it’s going to be #2, which means anyone choosing a leader whose abilities have not yet been updated in the BBG changelog is taking on a bit of risk.

I generally trust the BBG crew to keep leaders’ abilities aligned with the themes their historical characters represent, so I’m okay with doing this, but I think it’s important that every player knows that their leader abilities may suddenly change without warning a month or two from now.

Additionally, if the community pushes back against BBG changes to these leaders, there may be new, sudden modifications introduced into the game practically at any point.

I’ll go ahead and start the game, though. If anyone disagrees with this assessment or wants to change the mod structure, we can set up a new game for that. Just write here and let me know.

I look forward to undermining your economies, conquering your cities, and crowning myself lord of the universe over a great pile of skulls. Enjoy the game!

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Horia’s average turn time is near 2 days…

This is a game we will never see the end before Civ7. :frowning:

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226 out 262 turns are slow turns (over 6 hrs). 86%…
yeah… might as well replace him before turn 1…
or else we will go through many many versions of BBG in this game! haha

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@danlmartins suggested a 48h timer. I would go with a 24h timer.

24hrs can be a little hard… sometimes we’ve got a busy and tiring day, or a tough hangover… But, if it means the game will flow, I’d trade it for the risk of skipping some turns. If too many people are skipping too many turns, then we can reevaluate. I vote yeah for 24hr timer

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I’m not booting Horia. He’ll take his turns when he’s good and ready.

While I understand that speedy turn-taking is preferable, I don’t find it necessary to the experience of a good game, especially in an asynchronous multiplayer environment.

It costs the rest of us exactly nothing to wait. Anyone who wishes to play more frequently can make (or join) more games. It’s not like we’re going anywhere in the next few months, right?

I completely disagree. If a player takes 2 days to take a turn, in a 8 player game, it’ll be 2 weeks for each round in the game. There’s 52 weeks in a year, what means we’ll be reaching the end of the first era by 2024.
I now realise we are playing in Standard Speed, which makes the game even longer.
Well, it seems Horia is your friend and I would’t want to be a pain in the ass in your game. So instead of insisting on replacing him, I will let you guys replace me.
Wish you a good game!
Cheers!

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Hi @adi_4k, please pause until we can find three replacement players. Alternately, you can revert further and we can take this back to the open games list.

OK, I won’t do anything until I hear back from you.

How will other 3 people be able to join this game?

There is a Discord group with a good community of no-quit players. Here’s the link if you’d like to join: Civ6 Cloud & PYDT Games

I’ve already recruited someone from that group, and will soon have two more. PYDT lets host automatically sub new players in after no turn has been submitted for at least 48 hours (I think).

If I don’t see the auto-sub option pop up by Monday, I’ll submit a support ticket and get the new players introduced manually.

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Did the 48 hours rule prove to be true?

Yes, but there’s a caveat and I still need to create a support request. I can’t substitute a player who already quit – only players who have paused playing for that long. So I’ll go ahead and make the request now and we should be up and going shortly.

I think restarting the game is better for everyone.
edit: Apologies, I thought you had only played a couple of rounds.

Zero rounds so far @Valamas! You may be right, though. Should I just re-lobby this and start from scratch?

Looks like we’re good to go for now, you can take your turn @adi_4k.

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OK, I’m gonna play my damn turn :smiley:

@YogSothoth, why did we start in Round 76?