Bungle (39a4e245)

Smack talk goes here for Bungle! Game URL: https://playyourdamnturn.com/game/39a4e245-e690-4bb7-8c52-e0a08aae3daf

Any changes?

Last game we talked about banning Babylon - I think that’s the civ that gets you the tech if you get a boost.

Also, you have remove eurekas checked but remove inspirations is not checked. Not sure if that’s what you want, I’m fine either way.

Everything else looks good to me.

Game started. I removed eurekas and inspirations but reduced the factor from 10 to 7 and kept learn from other civs.

I changed temperature from Hot to Jurassic as the game was insisting on dropping me in tundra. I did 10 or so starts and 8 were in tundra. Maybe I don’t understand hot.

I checked your positions and they look good but did not wander.

Let’s have a good game!

Well, that didn’t take long and things are back to normal.

I knew what it was when I saw this message. And so it begins…

We discussed 120 turns of peace, but what turn is that exactly? We started on turn 291 so does that mean war starts no later than turn 411?

Let’s talk about it around 100 - before 400 in the game.

This is past being random. There has to be a factor driving it.

Sounds good to me.

Welp, I didn’t notice that “remove government plaza” was checked. Guess I should have paid more attention. That neuters Hungary big time. I will still do my best.

Another thing I noticed is “reveal all resources” hinders us if we stay in the middle ages with a dip in future ages. But if we never make it to the modern era we can’t remove those resources (aluminum, uranium, oil) and we can’t build a district on them. Something to remember for future Bungle games.

Well, I can’t claim I gave that one much thought. Does it hinder Hungary more than others? Sorry, I did not realize.

I am not loving the reveal resources anyway.

I think it hinders Hungary a lot. One of Hungary (actually Matthias Corvinus) benefits is levied units have +2 movement and +5 combat strength. If you levy troops then you get +2 envoys from that city-state. So Matthias wants to make a lot of city-states his Suzerian and levy their troops.

In the Government Plaza you can build the Foreign Ministry building which reduces the levy cost by 50%, but DB’s gold reduces the levy cost by 100%. But without the Government Plaza you can’t do any of this, and can’t leverage Matthias’ ability.

I would not ask for a restart for this. It’s part of DB’s to remove the Government Plaza if that option is selected. But the resources are frustrating. Not a game changer since we all have the same problem.

But if you hate the reveal resources, and Ozy hates the reveal resources, then I wouldn’t object to a restart. I hate the reveal resources.

I am good with a restart. Kind of experimenting anyway.

Of course, as things are back to normal, and we are neighbors. The remove gov plazas was unintentionally smart :wink: Of course, that would apply to most of my “smart” moves.

Ozy?