O.k., @Calcifer: You may keep Incas or take Toku, free choice now also for you! 
I still go with Inca.
Game created. Hope thereās no mistake. If you find one, tell it. Better a re-start at the first days than being angry for 1 year of playing!
This is the BBS i used: Steam Workshop::Better Balanced Starts (BBS) 2.2.0
(Set ā8ā as value for the distance, so you should have enough space on this āoversizedā map.)
No other mods (except some cosmetical) activated.
Only victory-type: science
City-state Hongkong disabled.
Calcifer suggested, that we should play without surprise wars. We didnāt talk about (and I think we would need BBG to enable the option), but we could decide, that surprise wars arenāt allowed.
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Prefer surprise wars to remain. Rather not wait 5 turns to condemn heretics!
If youāre nervous about the troop movements of other players, you can always reach out to them through this board as well. The diplomacy game gets pretty interesting if you include negotiating through the board.
@Calcifer - what reasons did you have for no surprise wars? You had good reasons for highlands map, so figure you have good reasons for suggesting no surprise wars.
Not particular reason for banning surprise wars. but since only science victory is enabled, you cannot see the military strength of other players because domination is disabled. So, because of that, you should be extremely cautious of what is your neighbour doing and have vision on them either through scout or spy (later in the game).
Banning surprise war allow you to be more relaxed ofc. but it doesnāt mean there would be no wars. We had and are having wars in the other space-race victory game I am playing.
This was just a suggestion. So, if you guys donāt like to do this, its completely fine to have surprise wars.
@Markelix BBG also doesnāt have this option. We just denounce in game and tell the other player in Discord that I may declare in 5 turns
Another idea also: Shall we disallow private communication? It prevents people teaming up on another player without defender knowing anything about it. Also, IMHO games are more fun with public communication.
Again just a suggestion
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Iām fine with both. (allowed/disallowed)
That is a good point I forgot that you cannot see military strength. I think it is best to leave domination victory on regardless of surprise wars or not.
Surprise wars I prefer to allow, I find it kind of silly to have to denounce and wait.
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Too late for leaving it on.
Agree with public comms only. Didnāt realize there was a way to send private messages through here!
@Markelix I suggest you either take an executive decision on public/private communication or make a vote on it before people meet each other in the game 
Also, a vote or another executive decision for surprise wars
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Should surprise-wars be allowed?
- No, wars only 5 turns after announcement on āSmackā!
- Yes, why not?
0 voters
Communication: Only open or private allowed?
- Communication must be fully public to avoid secret teamup at the expense of a third party.
- No, private pins should be possible.
0 voters
O.k., I summarize: surprise-wars are allowed but all communication has to be open. Means pins (except them for yourselves) has to be adressed to all players and all other communication here in Smack!
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Hello @Calcifer!
No wonder or CS yet.
No new continent to the east.
Only barbarian camps! hahahaha
By your question, guessing no wonder, CS, or continent to the West?
Feel free to pass through to the East.
Please let me know if you find wonder, CS, or continent. Will let you know if I find.
yes. nothing interesting towards me as well. I am east and a bit south of u. but we are pretty far, and can share the land
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I will be away the next 5 days, unable to take turns, any chance we can increase the turns timer or remove it?
With the new vacation-mode you should be able to choose, that none of your turns will be skipped.
If this donāt works, i can remove the timer as long, no probā¦
But I would appreciate if you try out first the ānewā vacation-mode-settings.
I donāt see any option in my account just a box to click on holiday with a note that my turns will be skipped