Should be ok. Is it your first choice or are you ok for Pericles or Genghis Khan?
Manoir choose Amanitore
Yeah, I felt that wasnāt enough of a bonus to qualify for banning (not a unique unit or a prod/gold/culture bonus) on the basis of no naval bonuses. Whatās everyone elseās feeling on Hojo?
This is ok for me.
Iāll take Chandragupta. Iām fine with Hojo being in.
Iām also O.K. w/ Hojo. Will look at the civs today b/t meetings and choose soon.
I would like to play Cyrus, please.
Whatās everyone elseās feeling on Hojo?
Wellā¦ I think +5 combat strength on coastal and shallow water is big (and direct) advantage while playing on islands. There will be a lot of such tiles on Archipelago map, I guess
I felt that wasnāt enough of a bonus to qualify for banning (not a unique unit or a prod/gold/culture bonus) on the basis of no naval bonuses.
Iāve been browsing the forum and came across your previous Archipelago game https://www.playyourdamnturn.com/game/012bc28c-6bf2-4fac-8e03-27aff16628c3
Isnāt that link a solid proof that Japan could/will win the game even with other 5 heavy ānavalā (already banned here by you: Indonesia, Norway, Phoenicia, Maori, Australia) civs on exact map type we are going to play on? 
I tend to agree with @kennyaās point about Hojo as Iām currently part of that game! But Iām easy either way and currently waging a successful war against him in another similar game.
Iāll pick shortly.
Iāll go with Seondeok.
Since Iām soliciting opinions here (and by implication will go with at least group consensus), all you have to say is you disagree 
I was just explaining why I didnāt include Japan in the original ban list earlier in the discussion, not taking a position in the discussion now one way or the other.
But since you asked the question (and I would hope @Pete can corroborate), no I donāt think the Japan coastal combat bonus caused Hojo to overpower the other naval civs in that game thatās not the only other Archipelago game Iāve started, thatās the second of two archipelago games with the same players and the same naval-advantage civs. Stefanos (the Japanese player) is an exceptionally strong player, particularly in the early-game ā I donāt care what bonuses you have, frigates lose against battleships. Of course, Iām not familiar with exactly whatās been happening in the game you linked to, as I was eliminated early on in that one.
I will say one other thing ā this game has already developed into way more work than I signed up for, and Iām more than a little irritated that players here didnāt seriously evaluate and discuss the original ban list earlier in the discussion. @kennya you of course werenāt in the game at that point, so I donāt mind that. Iāll reroll the draft again since you have strong objections to Japan, in this case I donāt think the majority should rule due to the nature of the discussion.
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Let me stay with Amanitore
Seondeok for me please.
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Unfortunately that wouldnāt be particularly fair. Although Amanitore has not been dealt to any player in the final draft, other players choices from the 2nd draft have been, so please select from the your list of 3 from the final draft.
Yes, lots of Civs have combat advantages (America on home continent, England on foreign continents and so on) and every Civ has a unique unit. Some advantages play well in the early game and others in later game. As Iāve said before, it can be fun to have a challenge and there are so many factors that result in success or failure including a bit of luck!
Thanks for your efforts @banman39 
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Notably Americaās advantage applies to all units the entire game whereas Englandās only applies to the unique Redcoat unit.
Iāll play with Gorgo, please.
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Iāll take Tomyris.
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Iāll take Gilgamesh then i think
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I will choose Mvemba, please. Thanks for setting this up!
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